Apply to Join our Public Beta Testing Program! I've made a little diagram of my room hoping that will help. Ok. I'm about to jump into the modeling game. Selling my tube stuff and cabs to go full modeling. I haven't played out in years, and while I cant say I never will again, I don't see it happening anytime soon. Clear editor. Thanks for the heads up.
You cannot paste images directly. They should also go on (short) speaker stands to prevent bass coupling with the floor, and because they don't have the DSP that more expensive speakers have to cope with that. On a side note, no matter what you choose, do yourself a favor and watch some youtube vids on how to dial in a modeler with FRFR speakers. Still not clear. They'll sound best standing at the apex of the equilateral triangle between the speakers. Cost is the same on both. That means that they'll have a "sweet spot" in terms of volume and listener position, and are best used vertically on poles. Which would be better? You can post now and register later. A pair of DBR10s will cost about $800 vs $500 for the Altos.
Manyplayers making the switch from tube amps have difficulty at the outset. I personally own a QSC CP8 that I use for smaller open mic nights or jam sessions which is very capable with a great sound and consistent peformance to my DXR12 which I use for professional gigs. Since they're a bass reflex system you'd need to follow the manufacturers directions regarding placement. I've narrowed it down to two options. My main concern is that the JBL's may sound "smaller", compared to the Alto. Higher up means closer to ear level and that always sounds better to me. ), and fairly high volumes. There's often a steep learning curve one that's totally worth it imho sodon't expect instant gratification. By Line 6, Inc. I switched from an all tube setup, as well. If you get the Yamaha, I'd get the stands anyway. That's simply the nature of the design of those types of speakers. Check out Jason Sadites' channel he's got a number of Helix- specific tutorials. This being a Helix forum, between the AXE and the Helix, guess which one we'll recommend? However, keeping the above feature differences in mind, the relative quality in terms of construction and durability on the low end has increased considerably in recent years. I've come to the realization that I get zero benefit from a tube amp because I can never really push the tubes. April 6, 2019 in Helix. For your needs, either will do. Yamaha's warranty is hard to beat though! The low end systems which have a good range of sound but very little flexibility in terms of adjusting for different placements and types of usage (spoken lectures, recorded music, live music, etc. I've decided on the Helix LT. Upload or insert images from URL. The room I play in is decent size (13'x30'), and I tend to move around alot, almost never playing while sitting. That being the case I might suggest you look more into the mid-range speakers such as the ZLX series, DBR series, or CP series. The Altos are PA speakers, and have a much wider dispersion. I've never compared them. Display as a link instead, Which will sound better? Awesome sound. For my needs? The main difference between the FRFR112 and the TS312 is that the TS312 has mic preamps. The type of speakers falling into this category would be things like the QSC K12.2, Yamaha DXR12, or the Line 6 Stagesource speakers. Pasted as rich text. The lower range speakers (Alto, Headrush, etc) also use bi-amping, but the crossover frequency is fixed. Your previous content has been restored. As mentioned previously they're studio monitors, meaning they're meant to be listened to in a very specific equilateral triangular arrangement between the listener and the two speakers in order to get the full effect. pilethemup, Your link has been automatically embedded. Smaller isn't necessarily the problem with the JBL's. Inmusic claims that the FRFR112 is "voiced for guitar", but the only difference that they'll admit to is the lack of mic preamps. It'll take a while. Modelers are NOT guitar amps, and FRFR speakers have a much wider and flatterfrequency response than typical guitar speakers, requiring acompletely different approach to the use of EQ. A pair, plus stands, will cost about $650. I could just order all of it and return the lesser ones, but if at all possible I'd rather not do that. Setting everything at noon and letting it rip will not work, no matter what speakers you choose. Which one you'd prefer only you can answer, and there's exactlyone way to findout. Ill definitely check out that channel. The Alto's or Headrush would fall into this category. The higher range do that and have presets for different situations and placements. Either a pair of JBL 308P MKII on stands, or a pair of Alto TS310 on the floor as wedges. LOTS of people use the Yamaha and are very happy. Playing by myself to a backing track or whatever I just don't need the volume. Again, Yamaha quality/flexibility (and 10" vs 12") vs Alto price. A frequently asked, yet unanswerable question it's entirely subjective. The next level of speakers would be more mid-range priced, have more flexibility for adjusting for usage, but a bit lower maximum volume, and use a bi-amp design for separating power to the speaker and the horn. The premium level speakers have all the general features of the mid-range speakers and with moreclean and precise high volume performance, and more advanced electronics and DSP capabilities for contouring the speaker's response. The Yamaha are lower powered, but higher quality and more flexible (DSP). I use a single HR FRFR112 and it sounds great. Although I've had a few people I know tell me to get the AX8, the UI of the Helix is just seems super intuitive. IMPORTANT SAFETY ALERT: RELAY G10 TRANSMITTER FIRE HAZARD. Maybe Im just dense. YMMV. In terms of the other direction of using FRFR liveperformance style powered speakers, it's important to understand that you get what you pay for in terms of quality. You might also consider looking into the smaller versions of these speakers as bass response really isn't a major consideration when it comes to DSP driven powered speaker designs.
Next dilemma is how to get sound from the Helix. I just don't know which will sound best. They will most undoubtedly sound very high fidelity, and will probably sound okay as you move about the room, but the stereo effect will be limited. As you mentioned, volume isn't a primary concern. I also own a ZLX-12P which I use for a side fill monitor, but have used it on occasion for my Helix. Unfortunately, while I'm within 20 minutes of 3 different Guitar Centers, not one of them has both of these to demo. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Im sure theyll both have great audio fidelity. As for speakers, the JBLs are near field monitors, intended for mixing. Sorry about the crappy paint work, I'm not an artist. So maybe jump up some Yamaha DBR10's instead of the Alto. Paste as plain text instead, The speakers that would fall into this category would be things like the QSC CP12, EV ZLX-12P, or Yamaha DBR12. Generally speaking, other than professional large scale concert type speakers, you have three basic levels in the market right now. Speakers with DSP adjust crossover frequency and/or relative power levels between low and high frequency components based on volume levels. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. A pair of short speaker stands will cost about $50: https://www.guitarcenter.com/On-Stage/SSAS7000B-Mini-Adjustable-Speaker-Stand-1500000023557.gc. As DD said, you get what you pay for. Powered by Invision Community, Opinions on speaker situation for Helix LT, Apple M1, MacOS 11 and 12 Compatibility with Line 6 Software. I use a pair of Yamaha DXRs on stands in my basement with my LT. Asalready noted though, either would be more than adequate for your needs. ok.
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