Charles for a safer alternative, use a tank designed for air compressor use. Thanks for taking the time to help me! Thank you for everything just took a minute to figure it out. The tank is rated at over 200 PSI. If there is a leak anywhere in the line the gasstop will do its job so there isn't a need to have a redundant safety after it. "interactionStatistic": { I now have a very large, heavy duty.. .. funnel. If you need any thing else I'll be here to help! 83543, The units will auto shut off when there is an unregulated loss of pressure. So either a regulator with a Type 1 outlet, or a flare-nut to Type 1 adapter. I had a Pol connector that came with the propane conversion kit. . }, 82093, Clear and understadable. Many of the 20#, 30# and 40# tanks are returned to the dealers to have the valve changed to the new style. 82596, Hello folks, I am so impressed with your website that I just had to say hello and tell you how much I wish I could have found info like you produce back when I started living full time RV. Check out this link. Like I said, I'm no expert. Just drilled out the shutoff valve assenbly on a 25 pound bottle. "interactionType": "https://schema.org/CommentAction", # 100833-36 Could that be a copper gas line with flared 3/8 in ends, or is it rubber? You get 5 stars from me. This may solve your problem. Could make a big bang. # CAM57721 # GS24FR The three main criteria to look at when identifying a fitting are these: Armed with this knowledge, you'll be able to identify pretty much any fitting you come across. . Again thanks again for all your assistance. I did however leave this bottle upside down with the releif valve out of it all winter. I might spend an afternoon in a manufacturer training class for some hands-on experience with new products, and then sit down to assemble all this information into a coherent article. Put a valve on the bottom and run the water out of the bottom of the tank, keeps it dry. 83552, @DavidB Yes this helps a lot. 82532, Hi i just purchased a stove, guy said it was connected to propane. Meaning appliances will use fuel at a set rate and if you introduce a leak/hole in a propane line this causes a loss in pressure and the unit will close off. Produced to make sure you know what you are getting and you get exactly what you need. to make a compressed air system. I have posted a link to all of our regulators below. If you test it make sure theres no one around for a hundred feet or so. It may not display this or other websites correctly. We also have this with a 12 foot hose Competitive Pricing. Outside theads are acme. Thanks yes where the brass valve goes directly into the tank the tank threads are pipe thread, but the valves are tight and you will have to realy wrench on it to unscrew it, but it can be done.
They just added the outside threads as easier for the homeowners..
134912, @RonP is the outlet side of your regulator a female 3/8 inch fitting? "width": 200, I'm considering using a propane bottle to replace a rusted-through tank on a compressor my father-in-law gave me. I start each morning with the goal in mind of taking all of this information and figuring out the best way to answer the questions people ask us (and the ones they dont know to ask yet), and helping people get the solutions they need to make their lives easier, safer, and more fun. Thank You Saved me many hours. 83561, Hello! I too had this same issue two years ago and in light of the effort required to change the grill settings I decided that the grill would be a dedicated camping grill only. The new dark green connector. Others will respond and give more info. Could make a big bang. 81713. Compressor was free. Many of the 20#, 30# and 40# tanks are returned to the dealers to have the valve changed to the new style. We'll explain. Sorry that I didn't understand the threads that you were refering to. }, Thanks. Some have a check ball and spring behind the 1/4" male npt to 1/4" female inverted flare adapter.
(Note: I had a bulk tank connected to my 30 ft when in Columbus several yrs ago. For instance, do you want to use the 20 pound cylinder on your travel trailer to operate a gas grill near the trailer that needs a regulator? thanks - eBay Money Back Guarantee - opens in a new window or tab, - for PayPal Credit, opens in a new window or tab, Learn more about earning points with eBay Mastercard, - eBay Return policy - opens in a new tab or window, - eBay Money Back Guarantee - opens in a new tab or window. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Let me direct you to one of our expert answer pages that will go into detail about testing for leaks. I'm no expert but the internal bottle threads are left hand. Lastly, if I opt for the company's pig and locate it next to the RV, how can I also run a 100' line to my travel trailer (has the two twenty pound tank setup.) Put a valve on the bottom and run the water out of the bottom of the tank, keeps it dry. Would this be suitable for me? Good luck and be safe. Check out this link. WOW, the many regulations I have encountered, with this here in north La., 1) getting a company to supply my needs, 2) their policy regarding distant from things, 3) they will not rent me a tank, 4) or install line to RV. On the other hand, you'll likely find Type 1 fittings on removable propane tanks on fifth wheels and travel trailers. Darren, It works! I'd just make sure it can let enough propane flow to meet the BTU requirements of your applications and regulator. Will let you know how it works. I think you'll need NPT for the compressor fittings. . Recently put in new 50 amp service, water and sewer.
On others the check valve is built into the 1/4' npt to 1/4" inverted flare adapter. "@context":"https://schema.org", http://www.surpluscenter.com/sort.asp?UID=2004052022524945&catname=air&keyword=ATT1 These folks are great to deal with and the prices are good. Some of these don't have regulators. They all praised me for talking them into having installed on the rigs because of the incredible cold which started just 2 weeks after our arrival. If you'd like to get the additional items you've selected to qualify for this offer. Thank you. perhaps you can send a picture of your setup?
130122, @Mark we do not have propane regulator repair parts - only complete regulators. Had a back injury 1 1/2 yrs ago so, loading those into a GMC 3500 Denali Dually has become Very difficult. Can you send me a picture of your setup. Of course I had no idea they were dangerous (don't try this at home); should have asked an EXPERT; (ka-boom), maybe?????? The "small yellow hose."
Others will respond and give more info. Fast Shipping! retiree trying to enjoy life. ", I don't know if it will work on the larger tanks. http://rvbasics.com/techtips/rv-propane-tank-valves.html. # GS97FR Maybe there is a 3/8 to 1/2 inch bushing? "text": "Hey, y'all. in the Tool Talk forum followed by comments. How would they or the GasStop product know the difference from all gas appliances running and a propane line leak? View cart for details. I'm not sure the pitch. Just drilled out the shutoff valve assenbly on a 25 pound bottle. 127881, @JRogerLBC I would like to help you, but I need a bit more information. We don't. I might be in the parking lot, taking pictures of an impressive RV battery setup our techs came across in the shop and discussing the benefits of the setup with the owner. I have two 20-pound tanks on my travel trailer, and the local refill station makes me take them off the trailer before filling them. They ALL still have the internal threads or female Left hand.
Just pair it with the GasGear 90-Degree Propane Hose - Type 1 x 1/4" Male Inverted Flare - 12" Long - Stainless I just love homade bombs I just love homade bombs and tires blow bigger with flames, also. This may solve your problem. Thank you! WHAT IS THAT FROM!TRAILER IS A 2014 TRAIL RUNNER. I work in a shop where things do blow up. It was brass so eas=y drilling and no sparks. Hi Les! Please use the navigational links to explore our website. 130491, By my experience most of the 2 tank regulators have a check valve where the tank lines connect. ), 1"-20 (Disposable Cylinder Port) Fittings. 83410, I am trying to put in a quick connect right after the regulator on my 2017 motorhome using a t fitting coming out of the regulator to the hose for the rest of the motorhome. }, Yes its 3/8 at both ends of the yellow hose. TOOK FITTING OFF MY MAIN LINE,IT WAS VERY WET AND FULL OF BLACK JUNK! Looking at your pigtail hose where it attaches to your regulator? BTW, is there a way to fill my onboard RV tank? I tipped mine upside down and tee tapped it. You would need the GasStop Of course I had no idea they were dangerous (don't try this at home); should have asked an EXPERT; (ka-boom), maybe????? 82322, @LesD the output of those hoses is a flare nut. There are millions of the old style BBQ tanks out there that have been disgarded; make use of them. On an RV there is a regulator right after the propane tank that steps down the pressure to a usable level for the appliances to use. You'll will also need a drain. On the Supply Hose (Connected to Main Propane Line), On a Tee Fitting, Grill, Outdoor Kitchen, or Accessory Port. 137711, Type 1 fittings do not have auto shut off features at all, there is not any regulation for that. From there, you should be able to. Here's a quick reference point: if your regulator has a gold adapter fitting, it has a FIF fitting and requires a. thurlow,we're talking 2 diff things.A closed pressure vessel or cut open for something.No expert,common sense and I like to be in one piece.Just have seen the results of pressure tank failure.Wrong parts,bad welds,whatever,gas (air) pressure is wicked.And yes,I've air and hydro tested things things for aliving. There are half a dozen different types, and they all do different things. I changed the valve on a 100lb cyl. Could make a big bang. Can anyone tell me if your garden variety 25, 33, and 100 pound propane bottles have standard threads? Now working on putting in a 150-250 gallon tank requiring installation of copper line to my onboard regulator. They are 3/4 npt I wrapped a chain around the bottle and used binders to hold it to a front end loader bucket then took large pipe wrench and it screwed right out. I think if you can tell me what you want to accomplish, I can come up with a solution. You're most likely looking at a, Not sure what type of regulator you have? I'm not sure the pitch. Is there one already built to do this. I received it yesterday. Nine times out of ten, this is all you need to identify what type of fitting you have and what you need. The circumference of MIF threads becomes narrower, while the circumference of NPT threads does not (see image below). Very tight and impossible to hold still, this is why I drilled / skinned it out. I like the mobility of using the small tanks for my small bbq so I really dont want to modify it to be connect to the motorhome with a hose. Then I cut off the bottom of the tank just above the curved area. Strapped it between two trees with ratchet straps and put a long persuader on the pipe wrench. Just drilled out the shutoff valve assenbly on a 25 pound bottle. I notice they have different BTU ratings. However I had planned all this to the best of my ability 142174, Sorry Jim, we do not have any T-fittings that size at this time, you will need to find the fittings you need at a local hardware store or someplace that sells propane and propane accessories. I work in a shop where things do blow up. Is this a oven and cooktop in a trailer, or is this a free standing outdoor cook accessory? Are all Type 1 propane connectors required to have the auto shut off feature when there is a leak on the low-pressure side of the regulator? i plan to use 2 100lb propane tanks for when i build my pto driven air comp which i am using a 15 hp pump head for. 83554, @DavidB One more question please. I think I have POL size since the extendA stay fittings are far larger than my current motorhomes fittings. Is it even possible? These fittings will connect the tank itself to the regulator. Threads are not reverse on the bung just normal 3/4 NPT. Nope. So yes, there are a lot of potential combinations. I would recommend using a hose when ever possible. This may solve your problem. There are no fittings smaller than one quarter inch. Check out this link. Devil of a time getting the old pipe out though. These fittings will connect the tank to the pigtail hose (which then feeds into the regulator). "@id":"https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cgi-bin/viewit.cgi?bd=toolt&th=133844", You'll be able to easily tell whether you have a POL or Type 1 fitting just by looking at it. I'm not sure the pitch. or can I? Wife thinks I'm nuts. "name": "Yesterday's Tractor Co.", I'll be here to help. Didn't want to heat it! to make a compressed air system. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. If you Buy It Now, you'll only be purchasing this item. This is a 5lb cylinder, but the 20lb looks the same. This may solve your problem. We don't. i will use the valve hole for air outlet, and i will weld a 2 inch bung into the bottom of the tank since i will be using them on there side i will also need to weld a small drain onto one side of the tank, dont forget you need to be able to drain the condensation or the new tank will rust out in no time. If you don't feel confident, get an experienced installer. I don't know if it will work on the larger tanks. { I changed the valve on a 100lb cyl. Filters are a grey area, they work for some, don't for others. # GS24FR Yes the threads in the top of a 100 lb propane tank are standard pipe thread,Not the brass valve,those are left hand weird threads,but the ones in the steel are pipe. Charles for a safer alternative, use a tank designed for air compressor use. Id send a picture but not sure how. So I cut a hole a few inches in diameter around the valve, removed it and welded in a short length of pipe. Compressor was free. I used a 100# bottle a few years ago along with an old open drive refrigeration compressor, piping, pressure switch, etc. Professionally packaged! It is in my back yard serving as guest quarters situated so I can take it out and put it back. 141130, The black tar material comes from the rubber hose. If you want the camco hose that has fire protection that's ok but I feel like it is not really "needed". And if you're still not sure and have a question about your specific setup, go ahead and leave your question in the comment section below! Sorry this is taking a bit of back and forth, but we will get you the perfect fit. yes where the brass valve goes directly into the tank the tank threads are pipe thread, but the valves are tight and you will have to realy wrench on it to unscrew it, but it can be done. But I question drilling, tapping or doing anything to a propane tank that could cause a spark. "datePublished": "2004-05-20", I tipped mine upside down and tee tapped it. # GS97FR I purchased the dark green type1 connector. From the 3rd t I used a 3/8 to 1/4 female adapter( didnt have here the one 3/8 to 1/4 nipple) then used a 1/4 nipple to hook up the quick connect. You can find one at most hardware stores.
(I haven't figured out if thurlow is pro or con.) 83144, How do I use the low pressure propane quick connect on my motorhome to refill 1lb disposable canisters? But I question drilling, tapping or doing anything to a propane tank that could cause a spark. RV propane fittings have both male and female ends, and sometimes the fittings come in more than one size. Lot of topics covered and questions you answered I had to learn the hard way. } So I'd like to have the regulator at the tank, and then use a conversion hose to reach the appliances. Im a DIYer at heart, so it brings me great joy to help a fellow DIYer find what theyre looking for, whether thats a product, an answer, or a community. 82324, If you are using the 20 pound tank on your travel trailer and just need to Tee off of that you could use the MB Sturgis # 103608 T-Fitting which has a disposable tank hose. Like I said, I'm no expert. Very tight and impossible to hold still, this is why I drilled / skinned it out. 85062, WHO MAKES UP THESE HOSES FOR PROPANE, CAN'T FIND ANYONE HERE IN GREENWOOD.
i will use the valve hole for air outlet, and i will weld a 2 inch bung into the bottom of the tank since i will be using them on there side i will also need to weld a small drain onto one side of the tank, dont forget you need to be able to drain the condensation or the new tank will rust out in no time. Larger cylinders do not have the outside threads. I used a 100# bottle a few years ago along with an old open drive refrigeration compressor, piping, pressure switch, etc. how do I then connect it to the appliance that expects a 1-pound tank connection? Also the sealing 0-rings on one pound tanks are only made for a few uses, and then are prone to leaking. I like the idea and portability of the canisters. The hose coming out of your regulator and bringing propane to your appliances will usually have a, The fitting that attaches your supply hose to your RV's main propane line will typically be a, Do you have a weird fitting sticking off your RV or accessory and you're not sure what it is? Something went wrong. recommended seller! Will be used only twice a week. I must admit Darren that I didn't think you would get so many positve responses.
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None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. Only paid about $100 for everything. Others will respond and give more info. Will b used in door inside a chirch kitchen. "@type": "ImageObject", I have a 1995 motorhome that Im trying to put an extend a stay on. Charles Surplus cernter I must admit Darren that I didn't think you would get so many positve responses. You must log in or register to reply here. It's no wonder propane fittings can be so confusing. Good luck and be safe. 127196, @JenniferM it sounds like you are installing a Camco # CAM591234-Port Tee with hoses.
If there's one thing that's simple and straightforward on RVs, it's propane fittingssaid no one ever. If the fitting is located on your actual tank, it's most likely a. If your stove has a built in regulator you cannot use another one like is on this pigtail. I'm no expert but the internal bottle threads are left hand. I found what I needed I took that setup off added a3/8 t fitting another 3/8 nipple and from the 3rd side I put a 3/8 to 1/4 reducer and put the quick connect on that. Will this smaller size diameter hose work with my camper propane usage? IT WORKS GREAT! 82267, @JenniferM I have sent an email address for you to send pictures to. 82276, I would like to convert the tank fitting to type1 for my propane converted generator. Hydro is safer.Not saying it should'nt be done,just trying to keep people thinking.I figured I'd ruffle someone,don't want to start a war or anything.JMO. Had many adventures trying to adapt propane hoses so as to use larger tanks.I traveled for a living for 20 years, I now own my 3 rd RV ( 40 ft 5th wheel ) and retired 2 yrs ago. 1,125,924 phone calls and 1,350,587 emails to help find the right solution. The metal braided hoses are tougher and give the hose protection against cuts and rips. If your quick connector is before the RV regulator then you can just hook it up to the grill. 84897, Hello.
Are there Type 1 propane connectors available that provide this auto shut off safety feature better than other products? I've taken the valve out of many of 'em, after leaving the valve open and storing them upside down for a while (they make great fish cookers/turkey fryers when cut down to the right dimensions); just lay it on it's side, put a good pipe wrench on the square partwhere a wrench would go.and whack it (pipe wrench) with a sledge hammer to get it started out. So I cut a hole a few inches in diameter around the valve, removed it and welded in a short length of pipe. All images, layout and content copyright etrailer.com. But the hose coming out of the stove is a small yellow one i believe both ends are 3/8, so what kind of connection do i need to be able to hook it up to a propane tank from the stove which is a 3/8 connection yet the tank is type1. Threads are not reverse on the bung just normal 3/4 NPT. "mainEntityOfPage": { However I dont remember if the propane coming from bulk tank went through a regulator or not before it entered my regulator via a copper line. At etrailer, one of our core values is that we are always learning, and I learn something new every day. "@type":"DiscussionForumPosting", # CAM57703
so it is unclear what you need to do. . Some connect to your regulator, some connect directly to your tank, and some are found on hoses, T-fittings, and adapters. You would need the GasStop I saw a 200,000 btu connector. }, Type 1 fittings have a distinguishable colored connector that allows you to hand-tighten them. Any thoughts on what I need to get to accomplish this?
There are available kits to convert a small 20# tank to a portable air tank. I have changed out hundreds of the BBQ tanks to the new valve. Or you know, at least hook up your grill or use your water heater, because that's what you're really here for. So maybe I'm too cautious, but be careful and take precautions. "url": "https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/graphics/smllogo.png", . I have one on a air compressor, I propped the control closed and tested it from afar and it held to over 250 lbs,then I set the cut off at 135 psi. Why don't you wait and see what they have to say. Tanks with old style valves can't be refilled after April 2003. I tried to use a large pipe wrench on a 20# one, but couldn't hold the tank securely. 123928, Mobile propane trucks will generally not fill 20-pound tanks. Can you send me the brand and model number? Do you have or can you refer me to a source for the built in check valve / adapter? Only paid about $100 for everything. 83524, article-categories.aspx?productgroup=propane, Best article on the internet for this topic. Keep the valve that's in it, and buy a fitting to fit the outlet (left hand thread). NOTE: You might see male and female NPT fittings referred to as "MPT" and "FPT" fittings, respectively. Well-written and informative. There are available kits to convert a small 20# tank to a portable air tank. I'm considering using a propane bottle to replace a rusted-through tank on a compressor my father-in-law gave me. I now have a very large, heavy dutyfunnel. You can also tell the difference between male NPT and inverted flare fittings by looking at their thread size. "description":"Discussion of Threads in propane bottle? If you are not absolutely certain about what you are doing you should call in a propane service expert to help you make your connections and check your vents. 132563, @Gil I applaud the IDEA of refilling 1-pound propane tanks, as they are non recyclable and take a toll on our environment. Can anyone tell me what type of thread and size a standard 20 pound BBQ propane gas bottles has in the USA, Is it a female left hand thread about 3/4"? You'll will also need a drain. The tank is rated at over 200 PSI. I've taken the valve out of many of 'em, after leaving the valve open and storing them upside down for a while (they make great fish cookers/turkey fryers when cut down to the right dimensions); just lay it on it's side, put a good pipe wrench on the square partwhere a wrench would go.and whack it (pipe wrench) with a sledge hammer to get it started out. The tank threads are 3/4 NPT. If you test it make sure theres no one around for a hundred feet or so.
Thanks 83556, Hey Gary welcome back! I don't know if it will work on the larger tanks. I think you'll need NPT for the compressor fittings.
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