even though to many the instruction on the "barrel" (called the spring tube) shows the steps "if" with diagram of the 6 hole mounting plate and "then" showing the valve screwed in. Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on January 27, 2012: It sounds like you have a "standard mount" installation and that one of the screws that hold the shoe to the header has broken off. If it is reversible, you should be able to simply swing the arm around, slide the dog into the spring sprocket and there you go. Really appreciate your time on this. What is this number for. Not saying that the more powerful spring will do the job, but it would be more powerful than what you have. An example of a concealed-in-door closer is the LCN 3130 series. mounting? How do I adjust? Thanks for the info. We just installed our door closers now. can you reference a diagram how a standard closer (in any of the 3 standard configurations) would be installed on a round top door? many of the big heavy duty closers are not recommended for hollow core doors, they are mainly for use with solid core or hollow METAL doors. Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on February 28, 2012: Thanks for that explanation, Jess. Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on June 02, 2012: Round top doors, ah yes, I remember them all too well. Unlike concealed door closers for which doors are almost always prepared by the door manufacturer, surface mounted door closers need no special prep. If on the other hand you pull the threshold and you find the pan is full of oil, it is time to get the closer rebuilt or replaced. The hydraulic oils havent leaked out(my fist guess).
How can this be addressed if the door frame is not a smooth surface, but more like crown molding? If it pushes to the right, it's a right hand door. Glass and aluminum?
Right hand version shown (viewing the door from the opening side, hinges are on the right. Then I changed the angle of the arm so that the latch phase would only start about two inches from the fully closed position. Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on September 27, 2016: 615R is a UL listing that is stamped on many door closers, so it does not tell us what door closer you have, and difficult for me to suggest a solution. Surface mount version. Are their any special fixing for fitting a door closer to a hollow core door? Floor closers are almost always used with pivot hinges as opposed to butt hinges.
Surface mounted closer, parallel arm installation. Answer: When a decorative molding makes door closer installation challenging, you can 1) use parallel arm installation on the push side of the door, or 2) if the molding is made of wood, cut into the decorative molding on the header to make a flat place to install the shoe. I recently bought a Hager 5400 series closer based on no knowledge of door closer installation. Closes gently, preventing Sugatsune UDD DISK DAMPER Tom Rubenoff has worked for over 35 years in the door hardware industry. Answer: I'd say no, not significantly. Low profile door closer for small, horizontally swinging doors. Equipped with dampening mechanism for soft close. Stay will hold the door in 90 open position. Push the door to close Accuride Hardware Kits-Brackets-Screws-Accessories, Heavy Duty Slides 170 Lbs to 1300 Lbs Load Rating, Medium Duty 140 Lbs to 169 Lbs Load Rating, Sugatsune LADH LIFT-ASSIST DAMPER (Heavy Duty), Sugatsune LDD Series DOOR DAMPER Surface Mount, Sugatsune LDD-SP-xx Spacer For LDD-S Dampers, Sugatsune EBD DAMPER FOR EB FOLDING BRACKET, Sugatsune LAD-DP SPACERS FOR THICKER PANEL, Sugatsune LAD-ST LIFT ASSIST DAMPER (W/ANGLE STOPPER), Sugatsune LDD-V LAPCON DOOR DAMPER (RECESSED TYPE)For Heavy Doors, Sugatsune YMC MINI-DOOR CLOSER WITH DAMPER. Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on March 31, 2016: Butch, the number you see most likely is the spring size that it was assemble with if there is no spring tension adjustment. Removing the bookmarks also deletes the notes. Concealed closers offer designers a cleaner looking finished opening than surface closers. You may be able to solve your problem by using the swing and closing speed valves. going forward, i may ask you very specific questions as i get differing info from different people in this industry. As a result, we cannot show you the price in catalog or the product page. It would be helpful to know whether these closers are installed on the push side or the pull side, but I think, because of the apparent force that is being exerted on the mounting screws, that they are probably mounted on the push side and are therefore in a parallel arm configuration. Good luck on your hardware adventure. The problem is that it will swing quite abruptly and one of our nurses got her finger pinched. To be sure, check the installation instructions. But from your description, I believe what you have is less a door closer than it is a door opener. *Applies to standard ground shipping in the contiguous 48 states only. Tom, Is it important to screw in the valve on the back of the closer on 4041 p.a. However, if you are mounting the closer on the header (also called top jamb installation), there are many closers that have extended arms for this application. Yes, removal of the 4 bolts from body is required to gain acess to the backcheck selection valve on back of the 4040/4041's, if referring to the valve closest to spring tube (above or below the bolts when mounted, depending if its on a left or a right door) that is just the backcheck and no you will not have to remove your closer to adjust the backcheck regulation. Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on March 17, 2018: Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on January 31, 2018: Yes, that sounds correct. The door swings out Left, is made of heavy aluminum, would be the Exterior door, would have an interior(push) mount and would have an area of about 8" height to mount a closer on the top. do you have a drawing for this? If you are unsure what kind of closer will best suit your application, your hardware professional can suggest one based on the information above. Jess the Door Closer Doctor has a lot of experience with these and can certainly advise you as well. These are the things I would check first. I am hoping to get a stronger style closer that would withstand the constant in and out and beating from children but also be very adjustable in the pressure or amount of time it takes to shut completely. Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on March 01, 2012: Thank you Jess. The easy way is to put the closer on the pull side and the stop on the opposite side. Then there is a regular solid door between the 'screen door' and the inside of my house.
Will Jenkins http://www.callahandoors.com/products-services/com Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on October 07, 2013: Hmm, not sure.
That made it possible to install what is called a "drop plate", basically a flat metal plate with pre-drilled and tapped screw holes designed to enable installation of the closer on a thinner top rail.
Maybe the compromise is using a corner bracket in an opening that is not tall enough to allow a corner bracket, or maybe it is opting for spring hinges instead. sugatsune-kogyo-uk-ltd_ldd-s-lapcon-door-damper-surface-mount-type_photo_0_018991.jpg, Copyright Causeway Technologies 2022 I kept thinking everyone was talking about the backcheck valve. Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on April 16, 2012: Off the bat I thought of an electromagnetic door holder with a timer, but I am still researching a mechanical solution. I've had my door closer (a surface mounted closer, standard mount) on my door for 15 years. Question: The arm is not level after it is fastened into the door frame.
This is difficult, because the veneer is glued to the strip of wood on both sides of the door, and it may be difficult to remove the top strip without damaging the door. Disc-shaped damper gently closes lid without slamming shut. Narrow profile for unobtrusive installation. Suitable for food service environments. Successfully passed 30,000 open/close private cycle test Sugatsune YMC MINI-DOOR CLOSER WITH DAMPER http://aliafineart.blogspot.com/2012/06/2012-regio Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on March 21, 2013: I am thinking that the lack of rod length is causing you to lose the latching speed adjustment? My question is, can I just buy a small headless bolt and coupler to extend the arm myself? If it were held open for several decades, it might have some effect. When you repair your door casing, try to include a piece of wood to reinforce the header inside and to give you a solid place to which you can fasten your door closer shoe. Easy step to miss. Answer: First, identify it. How do I disable the "Hold Open" mode on my door closer. Question: MY door closer will not fully close the door. Usually the arm is attached to the spindle by a screw on modern closers whereas with older closers the end of the arm was a clamp that was made tight by a bolt. I can manually slip the arm back into place but nothing is keeping it fastened. if you MUST install a closer to a hollow WOOD door, you should sandwich the door between a metal plate (on opposite side of door in closer area) and the closer with thru bolts (to secure plate to other side of door) using a metal plate on opposite side of door then closer is mounted gives a broader area of pressure and will reduce changes that the closer will pull away from the door while in use, if not using a plate and thru bolts, you will go to open the door to find that the closer is hanging there by its arm with chunks of door and bolts still attached to closer. The hard part will be getting the broken off screw out of the header if it's still there, because it's fairly important to get that shoe back in the same place it was if you can. the instructions that came with my 4040XP, is the SAME installation sheet sent out with 4041's. If not, it needs to be moved. Stainless steel hydraulic door closer. Bracket arm will catch the roller for self closing at about 10. Silent operation. Hydraulic cylinder absorbs shock, preventing the door fromslamming shut Sugatsune LAD-BKT UNDER MOUNTING BRACKET In the pictures of surface mounted door closers at the beginning of this article, the closers all have what is called a standard, double lever arm. Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on June 04, 2012: Oh, I forgot about your pressure gauging question. On a couple of jobs I found that no exterior hardware would help because the door was used so often, and because the door was so flimsy, the reinforcements I used tended to compress the door like peanut butter in a sandwich and things just would not work right. What's wrong with it? Yes the valve on the back of the 4041/4040XP is important to adjust when mounting one of these to the push side of a door. Question: What is causing the arm on my door closer to keep popping off? If the gate is tall enough, one could build a housing above the gate for the pulley system. There is only one closer I know of that offers a real solution, and that is the Norton 78B/F. just looked at the norton 78 b/f closer. Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on February 20, 2012: Not sure what you're referring to, Jeff, but I will say that the 4041 (now the 4040XP) comes with great directions. Or am I missing something? Please, can you help me. A parallel arm mount would be the only kind of mount that would apply a direct pull on the mounting screws. Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on July 23, 2011: It depends on the type of closer you have. It is unusual for mounting screws to pull out of the door or be sheared off. I see door closers have a number 1-4. Sounds ingenious! Unfortunately, all 4 of the screws that hold its parallel bracket in place are constantly loose. This arm is pictured above. Registered No. Some states this is lower for exterior doors and in some cases local fire codes will have a lower requirement and this usurps the ADA code in this case. I am concerned that standard screen door closers won't be strong enough so I am looking for a closer that will fit into the 3 inches between the storm door and comes in brass or bronze. You could use a crash stop chain, that is a kind of spring loaded chain such as the Ives CS115, or you could use something a bit more elaborate like a Rixson 9-236 or similar. Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on June 27, 2012: I have used the LCN 1461T in this kind of application before with good success. i want to design a gate so that when you slide one door open the other slides in a different direction. about the oil/fluid, if I was approached with this situation, I would say to leave the fluid in the closer and adjust the valves so they are open all the way (not removed from closer body) this way it will not hinder the normal freeswinging feel but will slow it down if someone tries to slam it (in anger or wind take the door), as for the internal parts, this is best left to the experts/professionals to deal with, there is a really strong spring inside them that if taken out wrong or the wrong procedure used, can result in serious personal injury/damage to closer, Tom, a closer that has no fluid or piston/spring is often called a "dummy closer" these are common in use where a concealed overhead closer was used and removed for prepping door for surface or floor closer use, 2 closers is not really recommended for ADA codes, as well as could contribute to premature wear on pivot points. thanks for any constructive feedback/advice. Sugatsune LDD-S-L/DBR: Surface Mount Door Damper (left) in Dark Brown finish. This article is accurate and true to the best of the authors knowledge. It seems like they would occupy the same area at the top of the door, yet I want something to pull the door shut, (the closer), and something to keep an open door from getting caught up in the wind, (an overhead stop). due to once installed correctly there will be no need to have to turn it again unless taking closer off and putting it on pull side (if previously installed on a push) hence why its suppose to be set BEFORE putting it on the door (or frame if doing a TJ install), hope i wasn't too confusing to understand, please email me (you have my email address) if still confused about backcheck selection. This makes me think that they may have a "special template" solution that would allow you to have your "latter" option. Sugatsune LADH LIFT-ASSIST DAMPER (Heavy Duty) :). I hope this helps solve the mystery of the numbers you are seeing on a closer. Hi Tom, was doing some adjusting on my auto door closer when the self drilling screws had pulled out of the hollow metal door that it's used on. I was wondering if this hardware is reliable or if you recommend something else? Sugatsune EBD DAMPER FOR EB FOLDING BRACKET I have heard that if it opens to the right if you are standing outside the door, a right hand is needed. And if you through-bolt the closer, the through bolts will crush the door. I guess this part has worn out, and your repair technician, hearing that the complaint is that the door does not stay open, has found another way for it to do so that involves keeping the motor running. Some modern closers use a screw and a washer. Our hall to stairway door has a parallel door closer. I am wondering if an overhead door stop and a door closer can be used together? I've tried to include a link here, I hope it works. One example would be the Norton 1688 plate, designed for use with the Norton 1601. Choose from fast, efficient delivery or customer collection for your order when you checkout. The door has a changeable screen/glass option that takes up about 80% of the face of the door. Adjustable Closing Power. say you have a 'storefront' type of door - logic might tell you that somewhere in the width of the 1-3/4" to 2" vertical aluminum stile.. same idea for hollow metal or wood door also, for gauging door opening forces where there are air-handling/stacks pressure issues.. i was thinking it could be 'measured' in this manner - open the door about 3-4 inches from closed position, this allows any 'wind' to be not really a factor in holding the door closed, once this gap is allowed for, then the pressure gauge can can be applied to the door at the appropriate range and the other end can be set at the door stop and a reading taken (not much of an angle difference). Correct? Our price is lower than the manufacturer's "minimum advertised price." Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on April 13, 2015: Hi Dale. To do it mechanically, one could create a chain and pulley system that would do the job, but the problem would be doing it in a way that does not create an obstruction to those using the gate. Is this reveal on the pull side? Question: Why would my door closer device be making a loud whirring noise?
as for LCN/IR csutomer support, i never had to call them for anything (yet) but i do know everyone at LCN has passion for what they do and do really good at it in the knowledge department, but do email with a couple employees at LCN plant. Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on January 31, 2012: Some door closers are handed. Light Brown
My door closer in my apartment broke. Look on the Norton Door Controls web site and pick out the one it most looks like. Is that correct? As shown above, surface mounted closers can be mounted in standard, top jamb or parallel arm configurations. i can understand this, when i seen the 4040 (first edition of the 4040 body style) it had no graphical label on the spring tube and just by looking at it i thought right the opposite with the adjustments and though tit was put together much like a screen door closer (adjustment on end of spring tube be sweep/latch) then when i seen the insides were rack and pinion and how the piston travelled inside the closer body, i learned what things did. While they are designed to operate quietly, they usually have an electric motor and drive apparatus that certainly have the potential to make a whirring sound. Question: The door closer arms are not arrayed at the acute angles shown in your illustrations, or in the manual's illustrations. 1-800-421-2002, Regular Price: Is there any add-on (or OEM closer) available that allows mounting where my current cheap tubular hydraulic closer is, which is about 18 inches off the threshold? The only think I can think of is to remove the threshold cover and hope to get access underneath there.Any thoughts? The best solution would be to replace the door with a solid-core door. Secondly, if there is this much force being exerted against this door, perhaps you might consider adding an overhead stop that will keep the force away from the closer. (no idea why i have not been offered a job working at Norton or LCN, but about every locksmith (on the internet) that i have communicated with and even people at IRST (ingersoll rand security technologies) have told me about visiting the LCN plant to watch closers be made or even take a course in them. A second choice for option 1 would be to use a track closer instead of a parallel arm. Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on May 02, 2012: I searched for Ementematic but could not find anything. Best follow them, be it a parallel arm, standard or top jamb install. Actually I am delighted to have had the opportunity to learn something new about one of my favorite products.
Tom, i know exactly what Jeff is talking about, its called the backcheck selection valve, not seen when mounted to the door since the valve's location is on the mounting surface (surfaces of closer that are in contact with the door). Non-track surface mounted door closers are available with different kinds of arms that perform different functions. If this clicking is faint and happening as you are opening the door (and it is NOT the arm screw) it may be the one-way check valve ball in the piston of the closer allowing fluid to pass through, the noise may be loud in some closers but it should not effect dampening effect. We use the right door, the wind catches it and often pulls from your hand or just swings it back hard against the house. It swings both ways kind of like a door you would see at a diner where you don't need to use your hands at all. Tom rubenoff (author) from United States on December 08, 2011: Closers are handed the same as doors. Could you help me identify the name of this hinge which allows each half of the platform of the stand to be raised to the vertical position together and then be lowered to the horizontal position without creating a gap between the two horizontal pieces? I didn't realize until I was nearly finished with installing it that I needed a longer connecting rod for the top jamb installation I'm doing. Was the arm installed correctly, or was it installed in such a way as to get more power out of the closer than it was designed to have?
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